Hello guys,
I currently redesign frenchdudes.com and would need your advice:
Do you think it’s better to have a preview for all videos and models or to limit preview only to a few?
For example first page videos and models and no navigation, or full site preview with ability to navigate on all pages and see all trailers?
In short the more previews the better or the less the better?
Thanks to share your knowledge 
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Hi Dom,
We only allow the latest 6 updates to be previewed on our sites. I too am interested in hearing some feedback on this.
I actually use Adult SiteRunner and that software lets me limit people to a certain number of preview trailers per month. So I let people watch any 3 they want per month and then they get sent to the join page.
That is also by country. So USA gets 3 per month and then for instance the UK may get 2 and China gets none. Since most in china will not buy porn because of laws there I don’t let them see any preview videos.
I love it.
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This is the best way in my opinion… You don’t select which previews will be available… Instead you keep them all available just as you have now but you limit the number of plays any one users can view to an amount you’re comfortable with… I would think some sort of cookies based system could keep track of this easily…
Kevin.
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[QUOTE=mountequinox;152015]This is the best way in my opinion… You don’t select which previews will be available… Instead you keep them all available just as you have now but you limit the number of plays any one users can view to an amount you’re comfortable with… I would think some sort of cookies based system could keep track of this easily…
Kevin.[/QUOTE]
ok I understand but I have no knowledge to handle this and unfortunately my paysite script does not have this feature.
If someone did test I would be happy to know the result by the way.
For example seancody have previews for all sets and conversions are nice there.
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I would agree with this. If guys are coming to your site for a specific model or scene (and I would think this is true of a good number of customers) then you want them to be able to see the tease for that scene. There is nothing worse than trying to check out a scene that you think you might be interested in and finding you can’t see anything at all. It’s even worse when you can’t find the scene, or when there’s no text to describe what actually happens in that scene either.
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This is an easy solution for our affiliates. Our Free Galleries (FHG) have both the video trailer as well as clickable photos. So the video trailer is always available for that particular scene. Both FHG PPS and RevShare links are in the newsletters.
Not sure why an affiliate would link to the main tour since the tour videos constantly update and potential visitors would have to “hunt & peck” to find that particular video in the first place. It’s common knowledge that tours update and a video posted in June won’t be on the main tour in August.
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Conran, what if they found a post from one of your sites dated January 2014 on a search engine? They want to check out the video trailer (if the affiliate doesn’t use the embedded video option). They would have to do dig through a ton of videos to find it.
Now, using the limit X amount of previews is a good alternative, I like it. However, while they are digging through all the posted updates since JAN 2014 and they see a couple of videos along the way in their search and stop to preview them, what if they use up the X amount of previews by time they get to the one that interested them in the first place? Now they can’t view it.
If linking to our FHG’s, this is never an issue. They go direct to a page with the preview trailer, a few images they can enlarge and description of the scene. Then, they can choose to sign up or continue the free tour from there which takes them to the main tour itself. To me, this is more of a “win win” for all concerned rather than linking to a default main tour. Works just like deep linking but even better.
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For our part we limit trailers view based on “cumulative watch duration”, for example, visitor can watch 5 minutes of video per 3 days (different rules by countries / traffic source) :
–> Visitors can watch 5 seconds of trailer A + 1 min of trailer B + 30 secs of trailer C etc.
The key benefit is:
If after a few seconds the visitors is no more interested by the video and stop to watch it he’s still able to watch another and he’s not frustrated because he simply click “play” button even by error, or just for a few seconds…
Always interested in sharing strategies, stats and ideas, don’t hesitate to hit me on skype: ft.antoine
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Playing devils advocate…
Would you rather they stay on your site so you get the chance to eventually convert them? Or do you want to push them to the tube sites where they can get all they want for free? At least when they come to you for free stuff you have a chance. When they go elsewhere you get nothing.
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Kind of agree with Keith on this one.
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[QUOTE=OldSchool;152032]Conran, what if they found a post from one of your sites dated January 2014 on a search engine? They want to check out the video trailer (if the affiliate doesn’t use the embedded video option). They would have to do dig through a ton of videos to find it.
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Good tours have a search feature and if they are coming from an affiliate they should know the models name that interests them from the scene that was promoted.
Using the option to limit the number of free trailers they get to see usually also includes a counter so the user is aware that they only get so many trailer watches before having to join. This way they won’t waste those watches along the way on videos they aren’t sure they want to see.
[QUOTE=OldSchool;152032]
If linking to our FHG’s, this is never an issue. They go direct to a page with the preview trailer, a few images they can enlarge and description of the scene. Then, they can choose to sign up or continue the free tour from there which takes them to the main tour itself. To me, this is more of a “win win” for all concerned rather than linking to a default main tour. Works just like deep linking but even better.[/QUOTE]
In my opinion most FHG just look like fancy blog posts and over time they start to look dated. They don’t seem to get the cosmetic upgrades a tour gets every coupe years. Plus the visitor has already seen the content at the affiliates site so sending them to a page with the exact same duplicate content doesn’t seem effective in my mind… I want them to see what else you have and by sending them to the tour I get to do this. If they want to make sure your site has the content I’m promoting before joining they should be able to find it no matter if I send direct to tour or FHG first and be able to play a trailer.
My two cents worth.
Kevin.
Re: Is it better to have a preview for all videos or to limit preview only to a few?
[QUOTE=Titanmen;152047]Playing devils advocate…
Would you rather they stay on your site so you get the chance to eventually convert them? Or do you want to push them to the tube sites where they can get all they want for free? At least when they come to you for free stuff you have a chance. When they go elsewhere you get nothing.[/QUOTE]
I’ll second that My first choice is to always let them watch as many trailers as they choose. My second choice is to limit the number of plays they get but keep all trailers accessible.
Kevin.
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I’ll add my agreement to Keith’s comments. It just seems to me, that if I am gonna buy something, I want to browse the store, maybe have a peek at what there is. Like going into a clothing store, maybe I’ll like the jeans, maybe try them on to see how they fit, look, before plunking down mega cash. A tour should do the same, give me a chance to see if it fits with my tastes.
my opinion, of a true skinflint
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All good feedback guys. Something we can bring up at the round table.
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I see that I’m not the only one to be divided between all allowed and see some video previews only;)
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I say give them a good amount of preview videos…make them good teasers. Why limit them? Don’t give them enough to get off…give them enough to want to see more! Stills are fine but a nice 30 second clips can tease a viewer into waiting to see more of that model. Get them hooked.
The more you give them, the longer they stay at your site…if they are sticking around watching your preview teasers then you are doing something right (they like the guys) and eventually, if they are there long enough the little head will over ride the big head and say, “pull out that credit card so I can cum”…but you have to keep them at the site long enough to do that.
Otherwise, you are just making them hornier before they leave to look for a site that WILL end up pulling that credit card out to join (but it won’t be yours)!
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I’ve been saying for a while that too many sites have gone too far away from the intention of a trailer, giving away too much and doing almost nothing to get the viewer hooked on the action.
When you compare a Hollywood trailer, or even a TV show trailer, to a porn trailer, there is no similarity for most sites. The fact is those multimillion $ companies have already done the work, they already know what makes a good trailer and gets an audience hooked, and showing 2 minutes of full sequence and dialogue from the middle of the movie does absolutely nothing.
I really think sites need to start being more creative and following the format that’s already been proven to work. There needs to be graphics, moments of interest, teasing, hell even get some music in there and maybe even a voice-over! Do SOMETHING to make your content really stand out while using what other successful industries are using.
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Also feel the need to add that sites where all links lead to a join page, even on model profiles or images, really turn me off. I get suspicious about that. Why are they hiding everything and why are they so unwilling to let a surfer look around for a while?
I think most of you know the format, you click something to read about a performer and you get to a form page. I cannot understand the reasoning behind this.
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[QUOTE=conran;152099]Also feel the need to add that sites where all links lead to a join page, even on model profiles or images, really turn me off. I get suspicious about that. Why are they hiding everything and why are they so unwilling to let a surfer look around for a while?
I think most of you know the format, you click something to read about a performer and you get to a form page. I cannot understand the reasoning behind this.[/QUOTE]
I totally agree on this Conran. However, it certainly seems to work for Broke Straight Boys and a couple others. No previews with straight to a “you must register” or “join page.” It’s hard to gauge what each of us do when there are so many various sites with formulas that work for them, but not for others. As for previews, I keep testing the waters. Shorter, longer, without the cumshot, hide the cumshot leaving the sound effects, with music, without music, show the first 2 seconds of the cumshot and fade out. 2-4 second scene clip and go to another, give the story line of the video in the preview rather than random scenes. I totally hate previews from a video that are just cut out of a running scene either the beginning or middle. Very obvious someone doesn’t have or take the time to work on previews. But I’m always looking at various avenues to take with our previews.
As a result of this thread and THANK YOU Dominique for starting it, we are going to change up our tours and allotted previews. Will it increase conversions? Will it just increase the amount of bandwidth we have to pay for because of the free loaders? Who knows? One thing for certain that I do agree with is, the longer they stick around, the better our chances of picking up a sale.