Why people don't develop their custom scripts?

The first answer that come up in my mind is “because they don’t know how do that”. Sometimes it’s really true but sometimes it doesn’t make any sense.

In example I find Smarty harder than PHP. I think that people are not dumb (I’m wrong I know)… why learning a sub-language like smarty instead of learning php? Does it make any sense for you?

Lack of time? Damn, I know people that spend DAYS to customize WordPress riddling it with bullets. Why they do that instead of developing something?

Other people love integrating different scripts. They best way to end up with dangerous inner join. :bang:

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I think it scares the crap out of them. lol I don’t know, playing around with wordpress for me, is tinkering. Maybe it is more time consuming than learning a new language, but at the same time, it does give one a bit of an insight into the whole ‘language’ thing.

Some are good at it, I am not, so I figure, others can do it better, let them.

And yeah, time really is a factor, as well as interest I think. I’d like to learn php and all, but I just never seem to find the time to just concentrate on it, to ignore the other obligations.

my pennies worth

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[QUOTE=Gaystoryman;24123]I think it scares the crap out of them. lol I don’t know, playing around with wordpress for me, is tinkering. Maybe it is more time consuming than learning a new language, but at the same time, it does give one a bit of an insight into the whole ‘language’ thing.

Some are good at it, I am not, so I figure, others can do it better, let them.

And yeah, time really is a factor, as well as interest I think. I’d like to learn php and all, but I just never seem to find the time to just concentrate on it, to ignore the other obligations.

my pennies worth[/QUOTE]

Yes, I can understand you position. Playing around wordpress, for me, is putting together several pieces with the glue. I prefer build something new. It’s just me :frowning:

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Yep, sort of like when as a kid, i loved putting together models, but hated the ones you had to cut and make the pieces first. Though I have to admit, it was more fun afterwards, to see the finished product, unless I screwed it up… lol

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I would love to be able to put together something myself, but I dont have the time to learn something from scratch and then spend the time on building it.

I also learn by doing it myself, deconstructing something then rebuilding it. Scripts are not that easy to do that with. Websites and CSS I find very easy, but when its java, php etc… it just doesnt seem to work for me.

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For me it’s the opposite :grrr:

I have an idea…

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It’s also because of security and sloppy code. Even if you hire someone to program something custom for you, you may still encounter security problems, bugs, and sloppy code. Sometimes is just much better to use a trusted program with good support.

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Think about that: lets say that WP has something like 500 features. You need 10 features of those 500 and you have to install 5 plug-ins to add other 10 features not included in those 500. Each plug-in has 10 features.

Basically your WP installation has 550 features and you use just 20 of them. Is it easier finding a bug into the lines of code needed to handle 550 features or just 20?

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[QUOTE=InsaneSimon;24155]Think about that: lets say that WP has something like 500 features. You need 10 features of those 500 and you have to install 5 plug-ins to add other 10 features not included in those 500. Each plug-in has 10 features.

Basically your WP installation has 550 features and you use just 20 of them. Is it easier finding a bug into the lines of code needed to handle 550 features or just 20?[/QUOTE]

This reminds me of a study they did that showed your car doesn’t need 1/3 of the nuts, bolts, screws and welds that it has to function the same and be just as safe.

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We write a lot of custom stuff for our sites. A lot of automation stuff and admin tasks. But sometimes its easier to just get other more developed software than trying to re-invent the wheel.

Jimmy

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[QUOTE=InsaneSimon;24155]

Basically your WP installation has 550 features and you use just 20 of them. Is it easier finding a bug into the lines of code needed to handle 550 features or just 20?[/QUOTE]

Since I can’t program it’s impossible either way. That’s why I like off the shelf apps.

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Smarty sucks, but the reason I have had to dabble with it is because some scripts like NATS do not allow php and only allow smarty.

But to your initial question, I don’t program because my time is spent better doing other stuff, and hiring a programmer or buying a script is way cheaper when you look at value for my time. I am betting this is true for quite a few others too.

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like luke, my time is best spent doing other things. for me to learn enough programming to write a script without the common security holes most self-taught programmers leave would be so many hours of learning, trial and error - and there are so many things i know how to do well now.

btw, when it comes to stuff like smarty - for example, the altered smarty used in linkx - i work with a relative who manages to do great things with it.

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I’ve tried numerous times to get my hands around Smarty - reading the doc, etc - and I still don’t completely get what, exactly, one can do with Smarty that one cannot do with hardcoded PHP.

I’d love it if somebody could clearly explain. It seems to me that if one is, for example, changing out the template set on a member site to give it a new look-and-feel that it’s almost as difficult to alter the Smarty templates as it would be to alter the PHP pages themselves.

Can somebody clarify?

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[QUOTE=HunkMoneyLuke;24173]Smarty sucks, but the reason I have had to dabble with it is because some scripts like NATS do not allow php and only allow smarty.

But to your initial question, I don’t program because my time is spent better doing other stuff, and hiring a programmer or buying a script is way cheaper when you look at value for my time. I am betting this is true for quite a few others too.[/QUOTE]

I had to deal with NATS too. I have to be honest, it wasn’t a big pain as I thought.

Btw I can understand you words. Developing takes so much time :frowning:

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[QUOTE=basschick;24186]like luke, my time is best spent doing other things. for me to learn enough programming to write a script without the common security holes most self-taught programmers leave would be so many hours of learning, trial and error - and there are so many things i know how to do well now.

btw, when it comes to stuff like smarty - for example, the altered smarty used in linkx - i work with a relative who manages to do great things with it.[/QUOTE]

Learning Smarty or other sub-language it’s pointless for me. They were created to let people putting their hands into the script without the remote possibility to damage the source code. It’s like studying a 3rd party language to speak in english. Doesn’t learning english make more sense?

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learning english makes sense if you’re going to speak or read it. i have many skills online, but i don’t have time to learn ALL skills. like anyone, i have had to choose which ones fit my natural talents or areas where i was likely to find the knowledge the most useful.

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I like Smarty a lot. It gives a layer between the code and design. You really don’t want designers messing with supposedly secure and bug free code. So, by using Smarty they have the flexibility of php (almost) without the chance of messing up the php code.

I think the hardest part that most have with Smarty is that they try and work with a template done in Smarty when more times than not it’s better to start with a fresh design then add the Smarty tags.