Any ideas-
I have some and intend to start posting examples of stuff that has been reported to pornguardian but still not acted on by the site owners.
May I repeat- there is no point having an affiliate program if any dropkick is allowed to upload and host full length gay porn videos.
It is not rocket science!
Re: Which porn producers are not serious about dealing with piracy
I think most producers try the best they can but you have to realise there are millions of stolen videos and impossible for them to handle it all, its also why many use services like Porn Guardian.
There is also issues with many pirates not responding and being able to continue despite take down requests. There are lots of sites that use loopholes to spread pirate videos and that can’t be taken down because they don’t host the clips themselves.
You assume its easy to take something down, it isn’t. As soon as one video is removed another 10 appears.
I’ve dealt with copyright and trademark issues myself and its difficult, costly and takes a long time.
There is hope though, Goggle might start to give negative ranking to pirate sites.
Re: Which porn producers are not serious about dealing with piracy
[QUOTE=mick_ozman;154760]I have some and intend to start posting examples of stuff that has been reported to pornguardian but still not acted on by the site owners. May I repeat- there is no point having an affiliate program if any dropkick is allowed to upload and host full length gay porn videos.
It is not rocket science![/QUOTE]
Have you owned a paysite?
It’s easy to sit on the sidelines and tell site owners what you think they should do, but unless you’ve actually run a paysite, it’s not as clear cut.
Here’s some of the stuff a site owner has to do during their day (I’m sure I’ve forgotten a few things):
find models , interview models, get models to the studio
sit around and wait for models who don’t show up or flake
deal with models who have a Twitter meltdown involving your site
film the shoot, edit the shoot, upload the video to the site
prepare affiliate content (pics, videos, clips, and descriptions)
deal with affiliate questions
deal with affiliates who are never going to send you a sale but have some great ideal and need a bunch of specific pictures of guys who have cocks that curve to the right
deal with boards and smart-assed webmasters who think they know how you should run your site
answer customer email
check your stats
watch for billing anomalies
network to get more traffic
if you happen to have partners or workers then there are discussions and meetings
waiting for these people to do their work before you can do yours
and get your stuff submitted to tube sites
When I ran a paysite (with two other people) I had a full plate of stuff to do. I did not have an extra one, two, three, or four hours a day to run around finding my content being pirated on other sites and I did not have the time required to chase this stuff down and prepare DMCA notices. We did use Porn Guardian, but that service isn’t free – it’s another piece of the membership dollar pie that came out of mine and my partners’ pockets.
Is dealing with piracy worth doing? Yes. Is it always possible? No, especially if you’re running a one-man show – which of the above tasks would you like a site owner to back burner so they can spend an hour a day dealing with pirates?
Finally, you’re assuming that because a video is still in the public domain after you’ve complained about it that no one is doing anything about it. How do you know?
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I often report urls to Porn Guardian. They will do what they can but piracy spreads faster than our can be removed.
I realize content producers are busy and doing all they can to protect their content and help affiliates to make money. It is just a bad situation and we all have to fall with it the best we can.
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I’m often amazed and quite impressed when I write to a sponsor who does not have an affiliate rep and they actually respond. I have a lot of respect for these guys so I try not to pester them with questions unless its really important.
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it’s come to the point where it is obvious sending in DMCA notices is not going to have an impact on this problem and that we need a coordinated set of lawsuits that actually have an impact on those involved in this industry. The only problem here seems to be the co-ordination. I have seen a couple attempts that ended up going no-where due to not enough studios either willing or financially able to contribute to what could end up being a substantial legal bill…
unless there are consequences, there is not going to be anything other than an escalation is the proliferation of shared content.
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Also realize that there are unfortunately bad sites that don’t respond to DMCAs unless they are sued. So just because we send out a DMCA doesn’t mean the content will come down easily. We maintain a list of how each site is responding to our DMCAs and then have an entire escalation team whose job it is just to try and bring those sites into compliance. It’s very difficult.
Re: Which porn producers are not serious about dealing with piracy
I was chatting the other day to someone who suggested that the only way to deal with piracy would be to do a “church tour” and explain how it is ever so much simpler to download all the porn (especially GAY porn) from pirate sites who don’t even have rudimentary age verification and certainly don’t require a credit card.
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You guys are an important part of a comprehensive anti-piracy program. Like a shopkeeper, retailer, or any other seller of anything, you will always have somebody stealing or trying to steal from you. Nobody can eliminate theft or piracy, but a comprehensive program to combat it will reduce losses. Security isn’t cheap.
