Reply to Studdrive.com owner..

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#1

Ok, I just got a email from the owner of a new site and service called Studdrive.com, its a gay file sharing service. For some reason he thought we should review and promote him.

This is my reply to him:

Tom,

Unfortunately we really do not want to review, promote or encourage ANY type of file sharing.

It is illegal to share, exchange or host any type of copyright material that you do not own or have the right to use. You can expect some rather large lawsuits if you are not careful.

Why would anyone use a gay file sharing service for any other reason than spreading copyright protected work?

I think your choice in business is very poor.

Regards

Bjorn

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Am I totally wrong? What possible legal reason would there be to have gay adult file sharing service?

#2

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I don’t think these people necessarily think, “I’m going to start a business to rip off copyrighted content.” I think most surfers on the Web think that if it’s on the Web, it’s public domain. Photos, music, movies, words, designs, graphics … everything … it’s all up for grabs.

I had a guy republish an article that I wrote. He was surprised when I asked him to take it down. “I thought you’d be happy for the publicity,” he said. “Yes, but you didn’t ask,” was my reply.

So I think these people just think, “Oh … wouldn’t it be cool to have a site where people could find all the big cock videos they wanted.” They think they’re doing a service, not a disservice.

And I’m sure there are plenty of people who think: I’ll make as much money as I can until I get caught, and then, I’ll say, “Sorry, I didn’t know.”

And ultimately, didn’t we teach all these people that porn is free? Now they believe it.

Michael

#3

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He said he runs several sites in the top 5k in Alexa.

The worst thing is, he was strongly defending his business as a service to webmasters.

I checked the site out, and looked at the “top 40” files. The only 2 listed, where pictures of clearly under age boys, which he now has removed I think, after I told him.

I didnt dare to go back to check.

#4

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I think he knows exactly what he is doing… Thats the problem.

#5

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Hi Bjorn,

Why not post the full email correspondence we had rather than just part of it…

I think I made it rather clear in the emails that the site is NOT for copyright material or child pornography which is stipulated very clearly in our terms and conditions before a user can even upload…

The site is primarily for adult webmasters looking to host content off there server so they don’t suffer bandwidth costs, can earn money and also receive a new audience they didn’t have before and thus generate more traffic.

The content uploaded is for amateur porn or porn owned by the copyright owner.

You seem intent on damning the service before looking at it properly, all we wanted to find out from you was whether you were able to review the site for the purposes of offering a new service to gay adult webmasters…

Your site is a great looking site but their isn’t a need for these kind of posts from you without any foundation.

Cheers.

#6

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There’s heaps of foundation. Every day site owners and webmasters are dealing with file trading and tube sites that are hosting copyrighted materials. Webmasters are watching their incomes drop as more and more of these services offer copyrighted material to surfers for free; and likewise, site owners are watching their costs skyrocket as they spend a great deal of resources policing the misuse of their content.

And pretty much every file sharing and tube site tells surfers not to upload copyrighted material, but they do it anyway. And most services leave it there until they’re asked to remove it.

Michael

#7

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that’s very true - there’s tons of copyrighted material and very little else on any porn file sharing or tube site i’ve ever seen. putting a rule up doesn’t seem to stop anybody.

#8

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also a service like what you offer has zero value for webmasters…

the only ones that benefit from a service like yours is the surfers that wants to download studio produced movies for free…

#9

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I’d beg to differ, try checking out www.pornhost.com www.yourfilehost.com etc and see the amount of adult webmasters that use these services. When you have 40K video views on just 1 movie, I think the adult webmaster would benefit quite considerably…

I’m not looking to have an argument with people about it, if you’re not interested in the service then that’s fine :slight_smile:

#10

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LOL try and take a look at how much of the stuff that is copyrighted to other people than the ones uploading it and you will see the problem… not that you will care ofcourse…

#11

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I decided to only do qoute some because quite frankly the rest of what you said was just embarrasing. If you want, I can post it all.

I think its outragous you are even in business and think what you do is good for webmasters. You are clearly cashing in on what is ruining our industry. I wont even go into the whole issue with hosting CP content.

[quote=studdrive;25424]Hi Bjorn,

Why not post the full email correspondence we had rather than just part of it…

I think I made it rather clear in the emails that the site is NOT for copyright material or child pornography which is stipulated very clearly in our terms and conditions before a user can even upload…

The site is primarily for adult webmasters looking to host content off there server so they don’t suffer bandwidth costs, can earn money and also receive a new audience they didn’t have before and thus generate more traffic.

The content uploaded is for amateur porn or porn owned by the copyright owner.

You seem intent on damning the service before looking at it properly, all we wanted to find out from you was whether you were able to review the site for the purposes of offering a new service to gay adult webmasters…

Your site is a great looking site but their isn’t a need for these kind of posts from you without any foundation.

Cheers.[/quote]

#12

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The site is primarily for adult webmasters looking to host content off there server so they don’t suffer bandwidth costs, can earn money and also receive a new audience they didn’t have before and thus generate more traffic. [/quote]

Hello and thank you for joining Gaydemon!

Your service sounds like it has possibilities

What is your name?

What physical address can we send a DMCA notice to if someone has posted our content on your servers?

Thank you and welcome to Gaydemon.

Regards

Tom

#13

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First off, good to see you here and actually posting and trying to get this sorted. I, for one, would like to know how webmasters can benefit from your service, yet at the same time, protect themselves from illegal filesharing activities.

I would also appreciate the answer to Tom’s post above. Its important to the webmaster community that these ‘leading edge’ web 2.0 services have this information freely available, plus have extremely strong warnings against users uploading copyrighted content, and of course, have a good system in place to quickly remove copyrighted materials and resolve issues.

cheers,
Luke

#14

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Hi Luke,

Regarding a couple of the questions, DMCA notices apply for the US, in the EU there are different legislations, so a DMCA notice wouldn’t mean a lot here…However by using the contact form on the site and sending the URL of the file in question we will quickly remove it. It’s in our best interests to do so quickly, because this information can be passed to our servers host and they will then complain to us…

Webmasters benefit from the service by allowing you to earn money from each of your uploads (2 banners of your own on each image or video page), no bandwidth costs for the webmaster, if the webmasters files get into the top 40 files for the day they get greater exposure for their site, we also have a toplist so they can get more returned traffic.

Webmasters also have 30 day statistics in their account which shows stats for each upload made by them.

Cheers,
Tom

#15

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I don’t see anything good in your service.

No real webmaster will use it. Not an affiliate webmaster or site owner webmaster.

Only people that will be using it, is those that already use megarotic, rapidshare etc… that is to share illegal content!

I don’t like your business plan at all. And I don’t know who are you exactly aiming at?

Seriously, NO WEBMASTER will ever use your service. Only a regular Joe!

#16

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I guess I don’t need to point you to sites such as http://pornoamateurs.be/ or numerous others that already use similar services…Or maybe check out the alexa ranking of http://www.pornhost.com

I don’t know why we’re getting so much hostility when we’re offering a free service which we have explained is for AMATEUR / COPYRIGHT OWNERS ONLY / NON CHILD, users…

#17

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You want us to do business with you but you don’t want to give us your full name and address. Why not? Do you have a phone number?

Tom are you a the owner of the site or an employee of the site?

Your site has no corporate information, only an email contact form and you’ve unsuccessfully tried to hide your whois information through a private service. Of the 5 sites on your server, none of them are owned by a “Tom”.

Roy likes to change his last name but leave his address the same on his whois for multiple sites on multiple servers in the Netherlands over the last few years. He seems to like to use the word “wicked” in his email addresses too.

#18

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Hi Squirt,

Sorry your sleuthing hasn’t come to much joy…

Firstly why would anyone put out there name, address and telephone number online to a forum for all public to see, this is ridiculous, I’m not a retailer, I have no reason to do this…If you wish to contact me, contact by email if you wish or through the site.

Secondly, “Roy” is actually an owner of a site hosted by us for a friend, I assume you’re looking at freshjugs.net, so this isn’t my name as I have already posted this on the forums, my name is Tom…

I’ve come here to try and explain the services, I have answered your questions but there seems to be a complete lack of understanding for the service being offered and an ability to post mature responses by a few people here.

As I have said, if you’re not interested in the service then that’s fine, but at least have a constructive conversation rather than just flaming.

#19

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Like I said, none of the domains on your server have ever been registered by anyone named Tom, just Roy Boddeveld and A.M. Van Oosten.

Are you telling me that the checks you pay us with will not have your company name and address on them? Are you going to be paying us by anonymous bank transfer? If you’re server goes down there’s no phone number for us to call you at?

So you are telling me that you want us to start hosting our content for free with someone who promises to pay us but wants to be anonymous, lives in a country where our copyright laws don’t apply and has a disclaimer on his website stating that he can do whatever he wants with our content once we host it there? You are out of your mind!

“By uploading a file to studdrive you give permission for the owners of studdrive to publish your file in any of their projects or publications. You release all rights to the file, and give full permission to studdrive and its associates to use and publish the file in anyway they wish.”

[quote=studdrive;25471]Hi Squirt,

Sorry your sleuthing hasn’t come to much joy…

Firstly why would anyone put out there name, address and telephone number online to a forum for all public to see, this is ridiculous, I’m not a retailer, I have no reason to do this…If you wish to contact me, contact by email if you wish or through the site.

Secondly, “Roy” is actually an owner of a site hosted by us for a friend, I assume you’re looking at freshjugs.net, so this isn’t my name as I have already posted this on the forums, my name is Tom…

I’ve come here to try and explain the services, I have answered your questions but there seems to be a complete lack of understanding for the service being offered and an ability to post mature responses by a few people here.

As I have said, if you’re not interested in the service then that’s fine, but at least have a constructive conversation rather than just flaming.[/quote]

#20

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OMG that TOS is unbelivable, why would anyone want to release ownership over their content.

How can that possible ever be for webmasters??

[quote=Squirt;25475] “By uploading a file to studdrive you give permission for the owners of studdrive to publish your file in any of their projects or publications. You release all rights to the file, and give full permission to studdrive and its associates to use and publish the file in anyway they wish.”
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