PPC/PPI Brokers - Does The Model Make Sense?

I saw a thread on another board about a pay-per-click service that’s started up recently. I signed up and have been thinking about the logistics of it…

Last year I was averaging about 6 cents per raw click (7 per unique) with sponsors, this year about 5 cents per raw click (still 7 per unique). So, if the model is going to work for me as a publisher I need to price things so I’ll net 6-7 cents per click. Since the service takes a 50% cut that means I have to price things for the advertiser at 12-14 cents per click. They have a promotion through the end of the year where they “only” take 40% which means a 12 cent click nets me 7 cents.

12 cents per click seems pretty high to me. If a sponsor wanted me to promote them they could just get me to put a banner in a similar place and they’d pay me on average 7 cents per unique click rather than 12.

Can someone explain how the service is a good deal for sponsors? If it’s not a good deal for a sponsor what advertisers is the service targeting? I could see public health organizations using it to be on blogs like my personal blog, but if they just contact me chances are I’ll put it on for fee (I’ve done it in the past for a university affiliated HIV/drug research group here in NYC).

On top of that the service is encouraging people to price in the 1-10 cent range. How is that good for publishers? Very few publishers have priced their ad units over 10 cents per click but that’s what they need to do to keep up with regular sponsor banner ads.

The one thing they offer that’s a bit unique is pay-per-impression. If someone just wanted branding (or a public service message) that might be a good option, but very few publishers are setting their ad units up to accept it.

So I’m just curious how this whole business model is supposed to work if it doesn’t make financial sense? Basically it puts a 3rd party in the middle of an existing relationship and the 3rd party wants a substantial cut of the money…

Re: PPC/PPI Brokers - Does The Model Make Sense?

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So I’m just curious how this whole business model is supposed to work if it doesn’t make financial sense? Basically it puts a 3rd party in the middle of an existing relationship and the 3rd party wants a substantial cut of the money…[/QUOTE]

I am curious as well. I have always had the best luck buying directly from the source.

Re: PPC/PPI Brokers - Does The Model Make Sense?

Hi RawTop.

This is exactly the type of discussion that we want and your questions are very well thought out and I thank you for bringing them up. If you don’t mind I’d like to address some of those questions about GayAdPros.com

There was a seminar at the Phoenix Forum that basically asked is the affiliate model dying? While there were some that believe it is, I just think it is evolving. Take for example blogs and review sites. These type of sites will always rely on affiliate sales. When you blog about or review a paysite’s content your intent is to send them to that sponsor and earn that commission.

But what do you do with banner advertisements or text ads that aren’t relying sponsor content to draw the surfer? Many publishers don’t make the same rate per click each and every month. One month they may make 10 cents, one month they may make 5 cents. So this model affords publishers consistency. Additionally, how many threads popup from affiliates complaining about not getting paid by certain sponsors? They don’t have to worry about it in this model.

You also said that if you normally make .07 per click that you would have to charge 12-14 cents per click to get the same rate. True to a point. Let’s look at the broader picture. Having just one static sponsor banner in the same spot month after month isn’t going to get the same amount of clicks as a banner that is rotated between several to a few dozen different sponsors (banners). So if your click through rate (CTR) on your static banner is .50% and your making 7 cents a click… with GayAdPros.com if you charged 9 cents per click and your CTR is .75, which is low-balling it… you’re already making the same amount. In all actuality you should expect your CTR to be double or more on GayAdPros.com over time.

Keeping on that topic, I want to bring up the cost of labor. Labor costs, especially in this industry, is the largest cost that many companies undervalue. How much time is spent collecting fresh banners, uploading those banners, checking and recording stats? If you sell advertising directly, how much time is spent recruiting advertisers, billing advertisers and collecting unpaid bills? Time, most certainly is money. Also, because the banners are hosted by GayAdPros.com you’re saving money on bandwidth too. Therefore, publishers realize they can accept less on the front end and still increase their bottom line due to decreased labor and bandwidth costs.

Regarding our suggestion of charging .01-.10 a click, this needs clarification. You are referring to our bulk network ads. We offer two options for what to display whenever your ads are not sold that still earn you money. One is that you can enter custom html code - i.e. the <img src> and <href> tags. Bascially you can enter a default sponsor banner and link instead of just the words ‘Advertise Here’. The other option is to utilize network ads. This is for advertisers who want to buy in bulk rather than cherry picking each individual banner space. By entering a price for network ads you are allowing bulk advertisements to display whenever the ad is not sold outright. Bulk advertisers enter a cost per click and then their ad will display in spots that meet their price or lower. Thats why we suggest .01-.10 for the spot because most bulk advertisers will never enter an amount higher than that. Generally your bulk rate (network rate) should be a little lower than your direct or outright rate.

Now I’ll address how this model works for advertisers. As an owner of an affiliate program, I would absolutely love if every single gay website on the Internet ran my banners. Until that happens, I’m not going to hold my breath. So I buy ads on websites that would otherwise not be utilizing my affiliate program. I choose to not let sales lay on the table, while my competition picks them up.

While I do buy ads directly from the source that is all larger well-known sites. I can’t spend my entire day surfing the internet and looking for small-medium sized websites to advertise on. Not only is that labor intensive, its not instant gratification. With buying directly from the webmaster, I have to first find them, then email the webmaster, wait a few days to get the rates and info. Wire them money which takes a day or two. Send them the links and banners. Then finally in a few days after that my ads are running. With GayAdPros.com my ads are usually live on the publishers site within 24 hours. So I save on labor plus I start making sales almost immediately.

Also, sponsor programs have been increasingly aware of how their products are promoted and want more control in that. GayAdPros.com affords the advertiser just that. Sponsors can choose exactly what they want their text ad to say. They obviously have access to their most recent or even upcoming content. So their banners advertisements are always fresh and they don’t have to worry about looking like a dated site because a publisher hasn’t updated their banners in the last 5 years.

Finally, paying per impression is actually a scary prospect for many sponsors. They prefer to pay per click because thats a fixed rate that helps them monitor their Cost Per Aquisition (CPA) more definitively. However, what about start up free sites? Theoretically their banners are going to get clicked on more so it makes more sense for them to pay for expsores rather than clicks. Same would be true for a sponsor that specializes in creating awesome banners and routinely sees very high click through rates. This is why we suggest that publishers offer a CPC rate and a Per Impression (PPI) rate as well. Eitherway, the publisher should make the same amount of money, but the advertisers are empowered to control their CPA or overall ad budget.

If you have any followup questions feel free to post them here or email us directly. Thanks again!

Re: PPC/PPI Brokers - Does The Model Make Sense?

Joe - Thanks for your thorough explanation.