How long on hold?

How long do you guys put your galleries on hold after they been used (holding period) before showing them again?

Or do you just rotate the galleries without holding off?

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[QUOTE=gaydemon;29645]How long do you guys put your galleries on hold after they been used (holding period) before showing them again?

Or do you just rotate the galleries without holding off?[/QUOTE]

My galleries are sorted by last clicks. Non holding period.

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Same here…

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never thought of doing it that way. So when the galleries are rebuilt its sorted by galleries with the most clicks first?

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Yes, with the most clicks of the last rotation.

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I try to have enough niche pages and archive pages (1, 2, 3…) so that none of my galleries go into holding. But my sites only contain my own galleries, I’m not sure if you’d want to do it that way if you’re accepting submitted galleries.

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I’ve got around 5500 galleries in my database, currently I got the holding period set to 30 days (thinking of testing higher). Mostly to minimize the chance that any returning visitors will see the same galleries again.

Interesting to hear how others do it.

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None on hold, rotate by clicks / productivity, and I make sure there is fresh content on site constantly in the appropriate sections… Well try to anyway lol

Funny enough the recent G shake up, seen what was one of my more popular sites drop off the map almost and loose its PR2 , but a smaller less trafficked site gained a PR3 from 1 , using the same program and methods… Bizarre…

Yahoo seems to be the boy now with porn results, and even MS live search is it? something to do with MS anyway, made me laugh when seeing some results and where they were from and thinking “who the fuck would type that shit into there?” LOL

Maybe thats of some use to you, maybe not :slight_smile:

(nothing to do with EGPA Ltd stuff might I add, talking about my own sites)

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[QUOTE=gaydemon;29680]I’ve got around 5500 galleries in my database, currently I got the holding period set to 30 days (thinking of testing higher). Mostly to minimize the chance that any returning visitors will see the same galleries again.

Interesting to hear how others do it.[/QUOTE]

You are right about visitors that see the same galleries. That’s the main problem of having a big HOF (Hall Of Fame) instead daily updates. TGP where people regularly submit their galleries haven’t this problem because with a couple for trick you can have your new galleries upper in the table.

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And I say you both are wrong :wink:

I tested this on some sites for a while because I always thought bookmarkers want to see 100% fresh content when returning. I noticed that up to a certain level my bookmarker prod went down the fresher the site was when they came back. That’s exactly the opposite of what I had learned.

I think the xplanation is that many people see some galleries on your site and jackoff. Some days later they might wanna see that specific guy (or several guys they found sexy) again and return to your site. Now they can’t find the galleries they liked so much because you show them 100% different thumbs.
They will for sure click around a bit and find other sexy guys but their prod was way lower than having a more static hall of fame and the fresher content below. This way they can watch their favorite galleries again and scroll down for the new ones.
As time goes by they will know where to find what and have a higher prod on your site.

It’s important of course to add fresh content, too. My point is just that a certain amount of “best galleries” should always stay on your site.

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[QUOTE=100boys;29716]And I say you both are wrong :wink:

I tested this on some sites for a while because I always thought bookmarkers want to see 100% fresh content when returning. I noticed that up to a certain level my bookmarker prod went down the fresher the site was when they came back. That’s exactly the opposite of what I had learned.

I think the xplanation is that many people see some galleries on your site and jackoff. Some days later they might wanna see that specific guy (or several guys they found sexy) again and return to your site. Now they can’t find the galleries they liked so much because you show them 100% different thumbs.
They will for sure click around a bit and find other sexy guys but their prod was way lower than having a more static hall of fame and the fresher content below. This way they can watch their favorite galleries again and scroll down for the new ones.
As time goes by they will know where to find what and have a higher prod on your site.

It’s important of course to add fresh content, too. My point is just that a certain amount of “best galleries” should always stay on your site.[/QUOTE]

I can’t be wrong cause I didn’t judge anything. I’m a big fan of HOF and I have an average of 300% prod (1st+70%). So it works for sure. Btw some people want to show daily updates. Sorting galleries by last licks doesn’t give you the opportunity to make daily updates.

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Some good point there.

So really, its easy to supply both - you could have a hall of fame, which bascially is the most popular galleries but then you also add in new and rotate them.

currently the rotation and holding I have, works on most recent galleries, so they move down but stay on the site for a long time in the archives, and only get put on hold once a certain amount of new galleries in the same category has been published.

But I can definitly see the attraction for surfers to also be abel to find the old favorite galleries they saw last time…

[quote=100boys;29716]And I say you both are wrong :wink:

I tested this on some sites for a while because I always thought bookmarkers want to see 100% fresh content when returning. I noticed that up to a certain level my bookmarker prod went down the fresher the site was when they came back. That’s exactly the opposite of what I had learned.

I think the xplanation is that many people see some galleries on your site and jackoff. Some days later they might wanna see that specific guy (or several guys they found sexy) again and return to your site. Now they can’t find the galleries they liked so much because you show them 100% different thumbs.
They will for sure click around a bit and find other sexy guys but their prod was way lower than having a more static hall of fame and the fresher content below. This way they can watch their favorite galleries again and scroll down for the new ones.
As time goes by they will know where to find what and have a higher prod on your site.

It’s important of course to add fresh content, too. My point is just that a certain amount of “best galleries” should always stay on your site.[/quote]

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How do you count productivity, I’m not a TGP person so to me it doesnt mean much. Is there a certain way to calculate it?

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I didn’t mean to say something bad :wink:

A prod of 300% is really good (overall, not bookmarkers?). May I have a look at your site? My overall prod usually is between 240% and 280%.

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If you use a tradescript such as ATX it will show the productivity for each trade and in total.
Productivity (or better click productivity in this case) is just calculated as

clicks/hits in*100

So if a trade sends you 200 surfers and they make 500 clicks then the click productivity would be 250% for that trade.

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[QUOTE=100boys;29800]I didn’t mean to say something bad :wink:

A prod of 300% is really good (overall, not bookmarkers?). May I have a look at your site? My overall prod usually is between 240% and 280%.[/QUOTE]

Overall, yes. And the site is playgayboys.com.

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ahhh but then productivity is only used if you trade with others?

My TGPs are closed systems, only contains my own galleries / FHG.

[quote=100boys;29801]If you use a tradescript such as ATX it will show the productivity for each trade and in total.
Productivity (or better click productivity in this case) is just calculated as

clicks/hits in*100

So if a trade sends you 200 surfers and they make 500 clicks then the click productivity would be 250% for that trade.[/quote]

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[QUOTE=gaydemon;30131]ahhh but then productivity is only used if you trade with others?

My TGPs are closed systems, only contains my own galleries / FHG.[/QUOTE]

No actually productivity can be tracked and calculated for all traffic. If you don’t trade and you have 5k hits in generating 15k clicks then your prod is 300%.

Btw. interested in some quality textlink trades? :slight_smile:

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[QUOTE=gaydemon;30131]ahhh but then productivity is only used if you trade with others?

My TGPs are closed systems, only contains my own galleries / FHG.[/QUOTE]

My TGP network is essentially the same, but I still use my trade script to measure the prod of every incoming traffic source such as internal trades with my other TGPs, or paid traffic sources. In the case of the paid ones you might be surprised at how huge a difference in prod there can be between two sources which cost the same.