Paxum Payment Issue - Careful using this Payment Form

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#21

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In the meantime clients can add funds by Wire, Check, or by receiving payments from Segpay (a processor in the adult space) or receiving payments from another Paxum account-holder. Sorry for any inconvenience.

I was not aware that payments could come from Segpay via Paxum. That could be a viable alternative for us.

We will pay those affiliates pending with payments since Paxum is now funded, but this still has us uneasy to use Paxum going forward since this was not the first occurrence.

I understand your feeling, we’re also uneasy with sending a wire.

#22

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I just signed up to Xoom to check it out. It actually looks very promising. I can send payments to most normal countries for a low fee and can fund it by either bank transfer, credit or debit card. So that makes it very handy.

I wonder why sponsors don’t start to use it. It seems as an ideal way to pay people, I suspect you could even use Paxum mastercard to fund these payments if you needed to.

#23

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I just signed up to Xoom to check it out. It actually looks very promising. I can send payments to most normal countries for a low fee and can fund it by either bank transfer, credit or debit card. So that makes it very handy.

Nice! I’ll look into this. Being able to load by Credit Card or Debit card is, in my mind, of tantamount importance in being able to use these systems for paying affiliates. I can’t tell you how many problems I’ve had over the last few years with wiring money overseas, and it becomes increasingly high risk with larger dollar values.

#24

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Well Xoom seems to be perfect for sponsors, no need for wires and low fees too. Much cheaper option than Paypal.

#25

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‘‘SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - PayPal Inc said it would buy digital money transfer provider Xoom Corp for $890 million as it muscles into a growing international remittance market and expand in countries like Mexico, India and China ahead of a spinoff from eBay Inc .’’

#26

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‘‘Commercial Transactions.You agree that you will only use the Service to send money or mobile reloads to people or for Beneficiaries that you know personally and for personal reasons. If Xoom discovers you are using the Service for commercial purposes, including (without limitation) to purchase goods or pay for services other than payments made to Service Companies specifically provided for by the Service, we may, in our sole discretion, cancel your Transaction(s) and close your account.’’

‘‘It is a violation of this User Agreement to use the Service for any of the following activities (without limitation): sexually-oriented materials or services’’

#27

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[QUOTE=DODevelopment;161037]’‘Commercial Transactions.You agree that you will only use the Service to send money or mobile reloads to people or for Beneficiaries that you know personally and for personal reasons. If Xoom discovers you are using the Service for commercial purposes, including (without limitation) to purchase goods or pay for services other than payments made to Service Companies specifically provided for by the Service, we may, in our sole discretion, cancel your Transaction(s) and close your account.’’

‘‘It is a violation of this User Agreement to use the Service for any of the following activities (without limitation): sexually-oriented materials or services’’[/QUOTE]

So not great for sponsors, but perfectly OK for guys like me or Bjorn paying guys who work for us. We know them personally and we’re paying for their time.

#28

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I also just read that PayPal just acquired XOOM for $650m

#29

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Well, Paypal has those same kinds of terms and we haven’t had any trouble with them in a long time. I think as long as we’re not mentioning anything adult related in the transactions and not sending to adult domain email addresses, and just say the payments are for ‘marketing services,’ that is true and it is probably safe (I could be wrong but I read that kind of term as applying to directly selling adult material, which is not what we’d be using it for…we are just paying affiliates for Marketing). In any event, I’m going to sign up and look into it this weekend and see if it could be a viable alternative.

#30

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Might be missing something, or im seeing a geo targeted version of the site, but you can’t send to the USA?

#31

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and since xoom terms say they don’t allow users to pay for services, anyone who pays once a week or once a month the same amount, i’m sure xoom’ll figure out that that person is paying for services or stuff like rent or bills, which is commercial.

#32

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[QUOTE=DODevelopment;161037]’‘Commercial Transactions.You agree that you will only use the Service to send money or mobile reloads to people or for Beneficiaries that you know personally and for personal reasons. If Xoom discovers you are using the Service for commercial purposes, including (without limitation) to purchase goods or pay for services other than payments made to Service Companies specifically provided for by the Service, we may, in our sole discretion, cancel your Transaction(s) and close your account.’’

‘‘It is a violation of this User Agreement to use the Service for any of the following activities (without limitation): sexually-oriented materials or services’’[/QUOTE]

That’s a shame, pretty much pointless then and only for personal use then.

They are ok with paying for commercial services though, it’s just that Paypal doesn’t want it used for direct selling of adult goods or material… except somehow now paysites are able to accept Paypal…

Such a shame with Xoom because Paypal is so expensive. It just shows how valuable the service Paxum provide really is.

#33

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They can accept Paypal through Epoch, I don’t believe a paysite is able to sell direct to the consumer through Paypal.

#34

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Yeah but isn’t that the same thing though, it’s a consumer paying for porn with paypal. Not that it matters, just glad it does work. I guess in the same sense affiliate payments are ok because it’s not directly associated with a porn purchase.

#35

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It’s very much a different thing in my eyes. Allowing sites to sell directly to the consumer using Paypal invites all kinds of scams and unscrupulous types that result in a host of problems for Paypal. They end up fielding complaints from surfers who didn’t get what they were promised and all that goes with resolving those.

I remember seeing a complaint from a someone who didn’t actually receive the product they thought they were buying, but they got a picture of it instead. This wasn’t an adult site, but nonetheless, you know this kind of stuff is going to happen if they open up the adult arena to anyone who wants to sell something.

By allowing adult transactions only through a processor like Epoch, Paypal reduces the risk of their customers getting screwed because an Epoch site has already done some hoop jumping to be granted processing. It’s not a guarantee that the site owner is 100% on the level or ethical, but it’s another level of protection.