Re: AEBN Affiliates - What Do You Think of the Changes to the Affiliate Program?
i was told that various people at AEBN are aware of this thread but they don’t choose to respond on the board.
Re: AEBN Affiliates - What Do You Think of the Changes to the Affiliate Program?
I suppose AEBN has spoken eloquently as to what they think of mine, and others, questions.
Did I read someone somewhere say that our posts on here are no longer indexed in Google? I think I read RawTOP mention this. Why is that? I’m just asking because if we’ve walled ourselves off under The Cone of Silence, wouldn’t that give companies less reason to bother participating on GayDemon? Maybe I missed something.
Steve
Re: AEBN Affiliates - What Do You Think of the Changes to the Affiliate Program?
[QUOTE=desslock;157231]I suppose AEBN has spoken eloquently as to what they think of mine, and others, questions.
Did I read someone somewhere say that our posts on here are no longer indexed in Google? I think I read RawTOP mention this. Why is that? I’m just asking because if we’ve walled ourselves off under The Cone of Silence, wouldn’t that give companies less reason to bother participating on GayDemon? Maybe I missed something.
Steve[/QUOTE]
Now that the forum is accessible for members only, Google can’t index the pages anymore. Luckily, most affiliates read this board, so they don’t really need Google to find out about stuff.
Re: AEBN Affiliates - What Do You Think of the Changes to the Affiliate Program?
[QUOTE=desslock;157229]It’s there. You were seeing those things on the individual transactions page, but for some inexplicable reason they removed those. If someone from AEBN could be bothered to read our discussion, I’d offer constructive feedback and ask that these return to the reports because I find information about the products my referrals are buying to be useful information.
Look on the “Payout By Month” report.
My customer origination for February was $43.26.
Steve[/QUOTE]
Found it… Now I can make sense of the decline in my commissions. Someone else is enjoying what would have been my $250 commissions. Not to sound like a broken record but I would bet money it’s an AEBN account and not another affiliate that magically acquired my customers.
Kevin…
Re: AEBN Affiliates - What Do You Think of the Changes to the Affiliate Program?
I feel your pain. I do think this is very much because of how business operates now. This year, I’ve written reviews for Raw Strokes’ excellent movies, which stream / download on AEBN. I guarantee you that people read our reviews of things like this and then go watch those entire movies on sites like Macho Moe, who has been tweeting his personally created animated gif clips from those Raw Strokes scenes all week.
I think this compensation change is at least partly a result of the fact that AEBN needs you and me to send them more actual paying customers, which is why they now emphasizing all sales from anyone immediately.
Our downlink AEBN customers who used to spend money on watching movies at AEBN are now watching them on porn business-funded tube sites like Macho Moe. This is why I keep making a big deal about this on our discussion forum. The companies who affiliate with those tubes are hurting the affiliates like you and me who are choose not to engage in commercial piracy.
Steve
Re: AEBN Affiliates - What Do You Think of the Changes to the Affiliate Program?
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Our downlink AEBN customers who used to spend money on watching movies at AEBN are now watching them on porn business-funded tube sites like Macho Moe. Steve[/QUOTE]
I’m not sure I understand this statement?
You told me you had $43 in customer origination Commissions for February… Wouldn’t those sales be from people you are calling “Our downlink AEBN customers who used to spend money”. It appears to me they are still willing to spend money…
$43 is only 3% commission of total sales. You used to get 30%. That means downlink AEBN customers of yours generated $1433.99 in sales for AEBN.
They gave you 3% $43 and they claim to be giving the other affiliate who actually made the sale 30% $430.20. In essence AEBN is taking a 3% loss under their new plan… They aren’t increasing their revenue… That is unless of course this 30% is going into their pockets as I suspect it is and they are actually only paying out the 3%.
Breakdown AEBN OLD Plan
$1433.99 affiliate gets 30% leaving $1003.79 in AEBN’s pocket
Breakdown AEBN NEW Plan
$1433.99 in sales, original affiliate gets 3%, new affiliate gets 30% leaving $960.77 in AEBN’s pocket
I have yet to hear a rational explanation as to how they think this is going to rally old affiliates to promote them harder OR create more new affiliates… I create new members everyday at AEBN… This theory that the pond is dry and there are no new fish to be had under their old plan is ludicrous. Every single day there are millions of new gay men coming into the market.
Kevin.
Re: AEBN Affiliates - What Do You Think of the Changes to the Affiliate Program?
[QUOTE=mountequinox;157236]I’m not sure I understand this statement?
You told me you had $43 in customer origination Commissions for February… Wouldn’t those sales be from people you are calling “Our downlink AEBN customers who used to spend money”. It appears to me they are still willing to spend money…
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We are making LESS money. I didn’t to imply that we all weren’t making ANY money. And my question remains - why are we all making less money?
Now – thanks to the new AEBN stats - I see that I send them about a hundred click referrals a day. So, in AEBN’s eyes I should be the kind of affiliate they want. Maybe if I upped that to 200 a day I’d increase my new signups and get the 365-day referrals from those, plus the commissions off all the transactions I send every day, plus the 3% Customer Origination money.
What this commission pay plan is bad for are AEBN affiliates who don’t send them much traffic today and are collecting residuals off of customers referred to them years ago. On the other hand if you are sending them customers today, they’re now paying cash on the spot, just like job recruiters or apartment locators. There’s information in all this.
From our perspective, what can we do? There are other companies that you or I can switch to and promote. MovieDollars/GayHotMovies still pays 20% for life. There’s Maleflixx. Homoactive has a nice VOD program (which I’ve been building more links to lately in large part because last week’s discussion about porn companies that collude with pirate sites.)
I’m not especially happy with AEBN’s handling of this. Nevertheless, I am sharing my results to everyone here as one of AEBN’s fairly active affiliates - and one way is for me to not to just gripe at AEBN.
Steve
Re: AEBN Affiliates - What Do You Think of the Changes to the Affiliate Program?
Video Secrets, AEBN don’t even answer their phones or return calls anymore.
I’m not going to comment on the new AEBN affiliate structure, but honestly, I haven’t experienced this with either company. My AEBN rep Matt always responds right away to emails. With VideoSecrets I usually get a reply from Kimi either on Skype or email within a couple of hours. Maybe you are dealing with the wrong people?